Since vs For – Desde vs Desde Hace


Desde and desde hace are two common Spanish time expressions that allow us to indicate the moment in which an action started. But even though they seem to be referring to the same thing, these time expressions are not interchangeable. That’s why many people wonder what’s the difference between ‘desde’ and ‘desde hace’ in Spanish. 

‘Desde hace’ emphasizes the amount of time that an event or action has occurred for. It means ‘for’. It works with numbers and adverbs of quantity. ‘Desde’ also implies continuity, but emphasizes the action’s starting point. It means ‘since’ or ‘as of’ and it works with nouns and adverbs of time.  

Using ‘desde’ instead of ‘desde hace’ (or vice versa) is a common mistake that Spanish learners make. Since both of these time expressions are quite common in a conversation, in the following sections we’ll explain to you the difference between these words. 

We’ll also provide you with phrase structures that will allow you to see when you need to apply each of these expressions. And finally, to show you how to use them, we included some real-life examples using both ‘desde’ and ‘desde hace’. By the end of this, you’ll have a better idea about how to use these time expressions in Spanish

What’s the Difference Between ‘Desde’ and ‘Desde Hace’? 

For many Spanish learners, both ‘desde’ and ‘desde hace’ seem to have the same meaning. Although they both help you to talk about past events or actions that continue to occur in the present, each of these time expressions has a different purpose.  

Desde focuses on the beginning or starting point of any action. In order to do this, ‘desde’ can work with dates, nouns, verbs or adverbs of time. It’s the direct translation of ‘since’ or ‘as for’ when talking about future events. 

No he visto a Carol desde 2010
I haven’t seen Carol since 2010

Mi roomie está enfermo desde ayer en la noche
My roommate is sick since last night 

Desde hace emphasizes the amount of time that has passed since an action or event began. In order to express the amount of time that has elapsed, ‘desde hace’ needs to work with words that indicate quantity such as numbers and adverbs or adjectives of quantity. ‘Desde hace’ is the direct translation of ‘for’. 

No he ido a la playa desde hace tres meses
I haven’t gone to the beach for three months

Sally y Scot trabajan conmigo desde hace varios meses
Sally and Scott have worked with me for several months

Now that you have a general idea of how these words work, the following sections will provide you with phrase structures and the contexts where you apply them. 

When & How to Use ‘Desde’ in Spanish – Since / As of

‘Desde’ is the Spanish word for ‘since’, as a result, we use it to mark the start point or beginning of an action. ‘Desde’ can work with different tenses; however, when talking about future actions it will be translated as ‘as of’. 

One of the main ways that will allow you to determine if you need to use ‘desde’ is the elements and words that this time expression works with:

  • Dates and months (1992, 2010, septiembre, etc). 
  • Holidays’ names and seasons (Navidad, invierno, etc).
  • Adverbs of time (ayer, mañana, anoche, etc). 
  • Articles and nouns referring to periods of time (la semana pasada, el año pasado). 

These past words are used to establish your action’s starting point. Here is the phrase structure that you can use with ‘desde’. 

[Verb conjugated] + desde + [noun / date/ adverb]

Estudio español desde la secundaria
I have studied Spanish since junior high school

No nos hemos visto desde Navidad
We haven’t seen each other since Christmas

Vivo a Argentina desde el año pasado
I have lived in Argentina since last year

Gabriel comenzará a trabajar en España desde mañana
Gabriel will start working in Spain as of tomorrow

Take Note: When using the previous phrase structure, you can either use a noun, a date, an adverb, or a Holiday to indicate the beginning of your action. These words are a main component of the structure, so don’t forget to add them. Finally, when using nouns, you need to include their proper article. 

Desde que – Actions as a Starting Point 

Instead of using words related to dates and time, we can use actions to establish a starting point for a current event. In this case, ‘desde’ still means ‘since’; however, you will need to use a different phrase structure:

Desde que + [verb conjugated]

¿Sabes si Lily está bien? No la he visto desde que llegó de Perú 
Do you know if Lily is okay? I haven’t seen her since she arrived from Peru

Ariel y Paul tocan la guitarra desde que tienen cinco años
Ariel and Paul play the guitar since they were five years old

¡Qué pesadas son tus hermanas! Desde que tienen coche están insoportables
How annoying your sisters are! Since they got a car, they’re insufferable 

Desde que entró a su nuevo trabajo, Paulina no tiene tiempo para nada
Since she started her new job, Paulina doesn’t have time for anything

Take Note: In this situation, the verb is mainly conjugated in present or past tense.

Asking Questions with Desde – Since when…?

As with any other Spanish time expression, ‘desde’ can also be used to ask people when an event or action started. In this type of sentence, you don’t need to use any date or word related to a period of time: the questioning word cuándo (when) fulfills this purpose. 

As a result, when used in a question, ‘desde’ will be translated as ‘since when’. Here is the phrase structure that you need: 

¿Desde + cuándo + [verb conjugated]?

Tim, ¿desde cuándo estudias español?
Tim, since when have you been studying Spanish 

¿Desde cuándo Ariel y Paul tocan la guitarra?
Since when did Ariel and Paul play the guitar? 

¿Betty es tu novia? Pero, ¿desde cuándo llevan saliendo?
Betty is your girlfriend? But since when have you been dating?

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When & How to Use ‘Desde Hace’ in Spanish – For 

Just as ‘desde’ focuses on the starting point of an action or event, ‘desde hace’ emphasizes on the amount of time that an action has been performed (or event has been occurring). In other words, it expresses how long something has been happening. ‘Desde hace’ means ‘for’ and in order to keep this meaning, this time expression works with:

  • Tenses in present or present perfect 
  • Numbers
  • Adverbs or adjectives of quantity

[Verb in present tense] + desde hace + [amount of time] 

Estudio español desde hace cinco meses
I have studied Spanish for five months

Karen y Lisa viven en Argentina desde hace mucho
Karen and Lisa have lived in Argentina for a long time

Mis amigos y yo no hemos salido desde hace tres semanas
My friends and I haven’t hung out for three weeks

Take Note: ‘Desde hace’ can also work with nouns (semanas, años, meses) but instead of being preceded by an article, these nouns will have a number in front of them to measure the amount of time. 

Related Resource: How to Use Desde Hace in Spanish

Wrapping Up

As time expressions, ‘desde’ and ‘desde hace’ can be very confusing for new and experienced Spanish learners. For that reason, in this article, we discussed the differences between these words as well as the contexts where you can use them. 

We learned that one of the main characteristics of these time expressions is that ‘desde’ focuses on the starting point of an action while ‘desde hace’ emphasizes the amount of time that has passed. 

Here are some key points that you want to keep in mind for using these two expressions, respectively:

Desde:

  • Means ‘since
  • It talks about actions that started in the past and continue in the present, but it focuses on the beginning or starting point of these actions. 
  • Is used to answer the question ‘When?’.
  • Works in different tenses. 
  • It works with dates, adjectives of time, articles and nouns that refer to periods of time.

Desde hace:

  • Means ‘for’.
  • Puts emphasis on the amount of time that an event or action has been performed. 
  • Works with present and present perfect tenses.
  • Used to answer the question ‘How long?’.
  • It works with words that refer to amounts such as numbers, adjectives and adverbs of quantity. 

Now, you’re ready to start applying these words into your conversations. 

Related Resource

Desde vs Desde Hace Quiz

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